Wireless festival Leeds - Who (the fuck) are you?

Good Question.

and Question 2 "WHO CARES?"

It was the Leeds Wireless festival at the weekend, and for the most part Leeds seems to have acquired the better line up, but due to some stupid decisions by the organisers this potentially fantastic day was blighted, and FCM left early.

Wireless, or, as they would have me call it, the 02 (can’t do the text but I mean the phone people) festival. First of all buses to the site, the picturesque if a little up-itself Harewood House, were free, well organised and well organised. Ever since having attended the Leeds Festival at Temple Newsom I have found the stately home a very pleasant backdrop to a festival, something to look at should you, perchance get bored by the headline act, but more of that later.

I’m tempted to say security was lax, but then we’re used to such OTT security at these events that just showing your ticket to someone to be let in seems weird, makes us nervous. So we sauntered in, a very friendly atmosphere, but suspiciously populated by people in The Who t-shirts, this perhaps should have been a warning.

But we mooched on, I looked up at the slightly cheesy American country rock band that were playing, Unimpressive. I decided to wander off and explore until the Eels came on. So we mooched of in the direction of the second stage. We passed a large blue thing that looked like as sex toy and the O2 lounge, where you could only go if you had an o2 phone. I did, but our friends didn’t so, arse to it we decided. It was basically just a picket fence with people stood inside it much like cattle, slightly confused and bizarrely serene, with little or no comprehension of why they were there.

The guy playing the second stage was much like a one man R.E.M but poorly mixed, so I was easily distracted when a robot drove past, it got off its little trailer and started to dance, and yes it did the robot. It then started to talk to its little alien friends before being driven away.

We then wondered back to the main stage and made the discovery that the American folk rock band were the Eels. Apparently on low-Fi underwhelming mode, Eels played just a few recognisable songs, I didn’t recognise them and was disappointed when I realised who it was. So, we waited about and I went and found some bear while the Zutons got ready to play. While getting to the front of the crown I noticed all the people who had been there since it started still had all their deck chairs and picnic rugs out. So I tip-toed out carefully not damaging their cool boxes or standing in the sandwiches.

It took me a good half of the Zutons set to return the front of the crown, which lacked the normal dynamic of a festival crown because there was still lots of Who fans sitting in deck oblivious top their being completely and utterly in the way, but I reached my friends, after being F’ed and blinded at as I very slowly got to the front.

Zutons though were impressive, jazzy tight, and compulsive in their sounds, I had expected to be disappointed, I wasn’t, and the sax player is fit as…. Oh yeah baby…

Ah-hem

By now I was quite pissed off. I’m a very considerate festival goer, none of this pushing and barging for me, and usual the crown at the front moves in such a way that you can get where you want to be by moving with the crown, then standing still and letting them move back around you, just like the sea.

However all these fucking retards in the deck chairs seem to have mistaken my Sea-waves-movement analogy for them actually being at the sea side. All were sat there on the blanket being outraged that I might want to see the Flaming Lips. Well they were fools. As the Lips began to set up, (they do their own sound check) more and more people moved to the front, the Lips are world renowned for putting on one hell opf a show, and it pays to be near the front.

Some people stuck it out in their chairs, they couldn’t possibly see a thing, although one old, and very determined couple did have a pair of binoculars. They became more and more cross that people were crowding to the front. It must be said they were about 12 metres from the front of the main stage, and this was of course a FESTIVAL STAGE…

The interesting thing being that the Lips start their set with frontman Wayne getting into a large “space bubble” and rolling around the crowd for a few minutes. After this I lost sight of the old couple in the deckchairs, because immediately afterwards the Lips kicked in with “Race for the prize” and the entire front thousand people bounced in blissful union.

And so the gig continued, but somewhere at the back of our minds dark thoughts were festering, the knowledge, that for some STUPID reason, the Super Furry Animals would be starting anytime now, yes, for some reason both bands were playing AT THE SAME TIME. These are two groups which any sensible person would have put on sequentially. They share a fan base and often come on to each others tunes, so what the fuck?

Some of FCM left then, but myself and the Mond were captivated by the loveliness of the Flaming Lips, and stayed till the last song, eventually sneaking out while they finished with the beautiful “Do You Realize?”. Picking our way once again through picnic tables and inflatable chairs, (I had only just managed not to hurt myself moshing amongst all this crap). At one point I passed another guy singing along and we hugged in mutual understanding of our love for the Lips, I explained my reason for leaving, he nodded in approval before sending me on my way.)

Finally out of the crowd we pegged it over to SFA, just in time for “TheMan Don’t Give A Fuck.”.

Then came supreme irritation came, SFA ended, before 9PM!!! We wondered reluctantly out of the tent, All the other bits were closing down too. You had no choice, you had to watch the Who…

Thing is I couldn’t give two flying gymnastic Sado-masocistic Fucks about the Who, and when they did come on all they did prove me right in this attitude, dull, desperate, self-inflated pompous OAP rocker has-been worthless and FUCKING CRAP.

But why did the whole festival shut down… was it the organisers?

Was it the conditions of having the Who play?

Were they threatened by the idea of having to rival SFA?

Well fuck that, they could just easily painted the main stage and we could have all have watched it dry and had more fun.

I’m-not-a-pedo-I’m-writing-a-book Townsend looked like a plonker in his bandana and 60s sunglasses was so lacking in charisma if I’d seen him in the street I’d have tried to buy a Big Issue off him, and Doultry was little batter, they made dish-water look edgy and exciting, unpredictable and crazy.

We left, such a pity to ruin a potentially great day like that.

Still, Flaming Lips RULE, SFA too, fuck the Who, like a pedo violating a minor, yes just like that, has been rockers should shut up- Fuck off- and stay there, once you don’t release an album for 7 yrs you are BANNED FROM PERFORMING LIVE COS IT IS JUST EMBARRASING.

“Realise, that time goes fast, it’s hard to make the good times last, realise the sun don’t go down, it’s just an illusion caused by the world spinning round…”

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A Nice Cool Bear

I agree about The Who. They really must be the most insanely overrated band there has ever ever ever been. The Dark Side of the Moon, often cited as the most smashing album ever, left me with a feeling of distinct boredom: one of the songs (possibly called "Money") reminded me of the Are You Being Served? theme tune and disappointed me vastly by not being any better than it. And where precisely is the pleasure to be found in that infernal wailing woman? I can fathom it not. I also like Rolf Harris's version of "Stairway to Heaven" better than The Who's (if it was them, which I now half suspect it wasn't - was it Queen?), but then what do I know? I feel I'm getting out of my musical depth, so I'll leave that for now.

I do rather love the idea of going to find a bear, though, and dancing robots...

Put the records down and back away...

Dark side of the moon was by Pink Floyd, who were always better than the who, but like wise should now hang up their guitars and go and worry about the lawn, and young people today...

Stairway to Heaven was written by Led Zeplin. Queen? QUEEN???

Deep breaths.

The wailing woman, aside from having improvised the whole piece is a breath taking journey through vocal ability, Dark side may not be too impressive by modern standerds, but when you think they had to cut and glue lots of analogue tape together.

That was rock and roll, the Who just ahd an unruley drummer, well Who doesn't?

that was a clever pun as said drummer is now dead.

If only that had stopped them.

Well Spotted

Another litany of deliberate errors proves that the editorial staff of FCM are not just whiling away the hours on fizzy pop and cheerleaders.

A victory for common sense.

Incidentally, by way of a diversionary tactic, there are, according to my Daily Telegraph Big Book of Liberal Outrages (published daily), two dogs in London that each have two noses. Presumably the punchline must be "wunderbar!"

Or not.

Trevor McDonald


Trevor McDonald pronounces beer as "bear"

Wailing woman

gave me the idea for the novel that's four chapters in and is gonna make me RICH dammit.

Damn those seventies rocksters. Yay britpop!! Discuss

Typing Error

That, presumably, ought to read "yawn, Britpop".

Getting things straight in one long comment


Whilst The Who have never been my favourite band and I do find Townsend a bit up his own bottom and a bit sneering, I feel we must get things straight. They have undoubtedly written some great songs/albums and are living legends. Pete Townsend is one of the finest rock guitarists Britain has ever produced both in terms of technical proficiency and inventiveness. He might not have been on fire at the festival but there were still flashes of brilliance worth sticking around for. Daltrey is still a great frontman both in terms of vocal dexterity and performance. Again, i'm more into The Beatles and The Band myself but I can appreciate the guy has talent. My own feeling is also that it's not The Who if Keith Moon and and John Entwistle aren't involved but hey that's the world of modern branding we live in which all successful groups pander to in some shape or form and The Who is a brand just like O2 and SFA. The amount of people in The Who t-shirts really didn't offend me. I was expecting to see them. It was a festival with The Who headlining! Wayne Coyne of The Flaming Lips has cited them as a major influence so clearly he wasn't bothered and, indeed, was very pleased to have met Pete Townsend as he said on stage. Sometimes I think it's important to realise whilst a certain band might not be your cup of tea, the history of music is a fascinating subject and different bands can have a profound effect on future groups. I'm sure there's a hell of a lot of people directly influenced by the approach and style of The Who (including our drummer - the bastard is making me deaf!) Sometimes if we don't immediately like something it's good to explore the reasons why other people differ in their opinions rather than saying i'm staying firmly in this camp. Be open to the experience rather than closed off. If then you still don't like something then at least you can explain it better than simply making ageist remarks and comments regarding the pedo thing which i think is best left well alone as we only see things through the media lens and really don't know enough about it. Also I'd be worried about Daltrey knocking on your door, he's still pretty hard as I hear Howard Stern found out when he made comments about Townsend's more recent 'errors of judgement'! Whilst I must admit I was thinking a lot about how much my feet were aching during The Who rather than being constantly in awe of Townsend I am glad I witnessed a show that included two guys who form a rich part of this country's musical past and used to hang out with everyone from The Beatles to The Rolling Stones to Jimi Hendrix and Eric Clapton I'm sure. With regards to the people sitting on rugs and chairs near the front where it was really crowded and they took up loads of space, that was clearly annoying. I would have to say however that lumping all Who fans together is just as reactionary as the silly individuals who seemed to set up camp near the front in their silly chairs seemingly with the attitude this is my concert, we're here for The Who and i'm going to take up as much space as I like whilst looking with obvious disdain at younger folk! A festival experience should be about people coming together, young and old, all enjoying each others music and being nice to each other. By separating ourselves off into different groups we're simply allowing the corporate mentality of the people who put the festival on to make loads of money rub off on us. It's like saying we are all here as individuals for our own separate reasons and self-orientated enjoyment rather than to bear witness to the fact all people are linked together as is all music. I am glad I stayed and heard some classic songs performed by their original authors and experienced directly a part of my and our musical heritage. And yes it was Pink Floyd who wrote Dark Side Of The Moon and it deserves repeated listening if you don't like it the first time. It's a goddamn work of art and it's timeless. Well done for correcting Eddie, but, John, "may not be too impressive by modern standards"?! Which modern standards?! The Kooks?! I'm afraid SFA and Flaming Lips haven't even got close to Dark Side of The Moon yet and I doubt anyone ever will. Flash forward: Flaming Lips/SFA headlining an outdoor festival in around 30 years time when only 2 of their original members remain. John plonked firmly at the front in his massive space bubble wishing people would get out of his bloody way because he can't see the damn stage even when he uses his binoculars!

Ahh yes but....

My angst stemmed very much from my irritation at the experience and has calmed, however...

(pointed use of paragraphs to not confuse the blurry eyed reader)

My main concern was why EVERYTHING had to close down for the who. All other stages came to a halt, i would not mind the Who playing, or even Kylie or Steps to that matter if i was allowed to choose to go and see what they were doing, and if it was not my cup of tea, then i could wonder away and find something else... THAT is what a festival is, its variety, its being torn between what bands to watch, its running off the catch Fountians of Wayne and suddenly finding DogEatDog are playing and you never even knew!!! Ah memories

My irritation at people in who t-shirts was from the fact they were setting up encampments with lines of deckchairs and spoiling the dynamic... the flow of people, and you can’t deny it, there was a divide between them and the younger festival goers… ideology won’t change that. You just had to catch people’s eyes and you climbed over the beach furniture barricades… they either looked at you with sympathy or an old Tory kind of outrage.

And even when the who (I’m tired of capitalising them) were on the front was full of those who cared and all those silly buggers with deck chairs would still have got trampled (yeah, by the exodus –he-he sorry!)

To be honest I think the Who have lost it, had i been a die-hard Who fan I’m sure I would have been even more disappointed by their lack lustre and contrived performance...

So back to early closing of everything non-who related. I did wonder if the Who stipulated this. Turns out probably not, Massive Attack only had one other stage playing while they were on... so it’s still not conclusive. But I love massive attack and wouldn't wish everyone there to be forced to watch them, it would spoil the experience having lots of people there who weren’t bothered, also let them get back instead trapping them... Wireless had a lovely atmosphere and was a friendly festival (despite the deck chair people - i want to come up with a german analogy, the whole get your towl out their first stereotype, then the deck chair beach, keep the beaches against invaders no sense of humour type thing but the only german i met was delightful and i can't make it work so i'm going to pretent i didn't do it on grounds of taste) no doubt greatly because of the lock of metal bands and metal fans, who are mostly lovely but can get a bit carried away. But it could have been better organised and thought through in a number of aspects, but there a number of +ves, a fantastic line up for a first time festival, next year should be interesting...

I stand by my worry of old bands suddenly re-appearing and doing the rounds... i think once you're done you're done...

I saw Pixies last year (watch me tread this line very carefully) and I enjoyed it, but there was a definite feeling oh, you’re back, and yeah I was glad I went to see them but given they went years without speaking, again I wondered, “why are you doing this?”. But the Pixies have been gone for 10yrs, the who (why not the Who?, that’s much more catchy, oh well) much longer, and yeah they wrote some good tunes, they shaped their age but so did lots of bands. Would you want to see an aged Jimi Hendrix revive it and come and start playing the old faves just because people would go and would pay money for it, I believe it would be a sad thing to see a beer bellied hendrix stumbling around on stage, getting the setting fire to his guitar thing wrong and having to be hospitalised. If you miss it you miss it. Bob Dillon is the opposite to my argument, as is song writer Neil Young, they never stopped writing, playing and performing, Frank Black never stopped though the Pixies did, and so he can still jam. (Oh boy can he) I heard Ramona sing…

Now, I love the Cure, I mean I LOVE the Cure, I know most of the lyrics to their back catalogue and I play their songs, I own all their albums and I secretly want hair like Robert Smith. But they finished, they got bad, they lost it. It hurt, and watching it happen was painful, but that’s it, the spirit is gone, and rather than muddy their amazing name, they should hang up their guitar and moth eaten jumpers, and leave it be. (and ideally delete their last three albums from the face of the planet to add some validity to my “love the cure” statement). If Pedo, (and if you can’t tell I’m mocking the Tabloids here then READ MY BACK HISTORY and then come back) Townsend and Rodger Dulltry want to keep playing then form a new band, the who are gone, that band was not the who. They could do what (I’m gonna make an Eddie mistake cos I can’t bothered to google and check my facts) the Faces (?!?! Use to be the Small Faces!?!?) and be simply Who? (see the symmetry to my argument?)

They used to hang with the Beatles? So what? put them in a museum, yippee whoo! are you gonna show to Yoko’s next public appearance, you don’t "hang" more than that. Put them on a chat show, fine I’ll listen (maybe). Have them stuffed and put them in the Tate modern and they can have some of my attention.

Right, what else of that tirade must I refute and get the last word on?

Oooooooh!

Dark Side… oh yes, first off I addressing the reply of someone who in their dedicated contributions to FCM has shared a lot about the music they like, arguably more convential and accessable, and yes I think the production of DSOTM is now beginning to age a little. But the context of my argument was to justify DSOTM, and explain this by the fact the thousands of sections of analogue tape were cut and glued through extra-ordinary dedication of the band, not their technicians, not their monkeys and no computers they did it them selves. I also meant to say, but got sidetracked as is my way, that in the room across the hall the Beatles were recording an-album-which-escapes-me-I-want-to-white-album-but-think-I’m-wrong and they borrowed lots of equipment and shared stuff, now THAT was part of our musical heritage.

And, (oh yeah I can go on) SFA and especially the Lips have pushed the musical standard of pop resolutely forward. No not close to DSOTM: Different, but no less valid, and equal in their level of innovative style. You can’t just shove something on a pedestal and refuse to let anything near it. There is a myriad of fantastic albums just as good and Dark Side, some better. The difference is they came at different times, and more importantly after Dark Side, and often because of dark side, but Dark side came because of other albums that sounded nothing like Dark side and likewise over and over again since people first stretch canvas over hollowed out tree trunks and hit it with sticks, though back then CD players were really expensive, so audio cassette bootlegs were rife.

Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots was a fantastic concept album and crystallised the Lips ability to come up with mind bogglingly simple and yet deeply profound lyrics, mixed with tunes and sounds that created their own cacophony of emotional turmoil in your head as you listen to it. To me Flaming Lips are the nearest musical equivalent to Joy, when I see them I am happy, I normally beam. (I’m sidetracking and I know it). But i'm gonna say it, just a good as dark side... only i'll grant you it doesn't look as good when you play it with Wizard of Oz.

I’ll stop, despite my use of paragraphs this is getting unwieldy and I’m thristy.

Let us find common ground, Dark Side, historically significant but not to everyone’s tastes, like the Who only more so.

Pedestals bad.

Festivals good…

Let us gather like kindred spirits and prove it at The Moor Music Festival.

And if you’re still cross I’m sure there’s typos and grammar crimes to be mocked, who can count the most, will vs Eddie the Gent!!!

Ahhh, right…

Sorry no I just can’t help myself

Absolute statement time…

COFFEE IS BETTER THAN TEA!!!

yeah take that!

Ahhh, the oldies are the goodies.

I'll allow it.........


I'll allow it but you must be careful when writing things on the internet as Pete himself must know after his most recent spot of bother! And whilst I used to be a coffee fan there ain't nothing as nice as a good cup of tea...........

Now you've done it

COFFEECOFFEECOFFEECOFFEE...

Always coffee....

Always...

Tea spread deseases, causes global warming, can give you cancer, will make you sterile, is actually Gay, (i can prove it) and therefor attracts torpedos and is banned under the international non-proliferation act.

if anyone of a legal mind ever saw this site P-e--------te (wow...)would be the least of my worries, Cherie Blair is actually ahigh power lawyer...

Eekkk!

Struggling Together

I think the tea thing was settled more or less settled years ago: tea is better than coffee. Next you'll be wanting to go back to the pre-1967 boundaries and that'll lead to all sorts of problems, not least of which will be a sugar shortage and the kidnap of a man with glasses which will lead to the targetted, precision destruction of a power station which will in NO WAY be a punishment of everybody that likes coffee, just of those that like coffee and are pushy about it.

What was I saying?

Oh yes: I like the Pink Robot album but now they seem to have gone ever so quiet.

Feel free to point out my mistakes. Doubtless they are legion.

New Album

Prepare to be educated, At War With The Mystics made a quiet Flaming Lips entrance this year, its one you need to listen to a couple of times but will reward the listener with yet more truly beautiful songs that fill them with joy...

"If you could blow up the world, with the flick of a switch, would you do it?
Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah..."

Music is immaterial

if you've drunk enough coffee.

Intimidated

Yes, my music tastes are about to be exposed for the lazy, gimmicky nonsense that they are. I spent 6 hours at a house party last night with the Pulp Fiction soundtrack playing on a continuous loop trying to explain to someone why love and hate are not indistiguishable, but never found separately. Shouldn't be allowed near a computer right now but I've drugged the nurses.

Right. Two weeks then.

Smoking cigarettes, and watching Captain (kan)Kangaroo!